Newcastle United vs Sunderland
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Does anyone really want to hear this after THAT performance? 😡
jonathan.gorrie195d ago
My head is hot. Prove it on the pitch!!!

Who was Newcastle United's WORST player vs Sunderland - and why? 😡
lawrencegray1940196d ago
Tripera

What changes would you make to this team? 🤔
richardremington197d ago
Murphy instead of Elanga
lawrencegray1940197d ago
Leave it alone. Give them a chance to cope with sunderland. It's a new day . ..
jonathan.gorrie198d ago
I'd LOVE to see Big Nick start up top to earn his redemption but just feels so unlikely

Howe disagrees with Bruno 👀 whose side are you on?
geordiekate1292d ago
Both Howe and Bruno are entitled to their own thoughts on that game with Sunderland.
geordiekate1292d ago
You have to give both sides a thought on this one.
james.rutherford292d ago
I'm sitting on the fence. We weren't a mess against Sunderland. We were set up solidly and didn't concede many chances. But our intensity was embarrassing, as was our attempts to score ourselves.

Should Nordi Mukiele have been sent off for his challenge on Dan Burn?
The Toon defender suffered a broken rib and a punctured lung 😳
41ekbod293d ago
Nope it was a 50 50 ball accidental collision, not even worth a yellow both players slid in Burn got there a fraction eralier thats is.
james.rutherford293d ago
Not for me. It was obviously a heavy challenge, but the kind you need in a derby - exactly what Newcastle didn't do! Obviously gutting for Burn, as he is such an important player for us.

What was Eddie Howe's BIGGEST mistake against Sunderland?
I've no idea why we were so deep, or why Elanga started!
jackgallagher293d ago
Jacob Murphy had to start!
peter.lynch293d ago
Weren't ready from minute one really, more than one mistake
iainroundtree293d ago
Starting with Elanga he has been abysmal dispute how much he cost the club
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Simple question, has Eddie Howe taken Newcastle United as far as he can? 👀
leazesndr293d ago
Eddie is an excellent boss but he is not an elite boss. Some of his recent team selections. and substitutions have been very questionable. Eddie may well have peaked at NUFC but deserves the chance to carry on. Depends on how ambitious the Saudis really are though
bazzak57293d ago
Yes and alot of the players must go
iainroundtree293d ago
Regrettably yes it's down to the players to step up and to prove they are worth there huge wages Sunderlands game showed not a Trot of that I think Eddie Howe has done what he can at the club he can only guide and if the players don't listen what more can the guy do

After losing on Sunday, do you think Newcastle United will finish higher than Sunderland this season?
They weren't particularly great, but they didn't need to be.
jordan.harris293d ago
how alarming is it that this is a possibility (if not a probability)
jamie.brown82293d ago
Eddie Howe has a lot of work to do... Right now, I think it's very possible and that is just unacceptable!
petertaylor6400293d ago
I know him that flattened Dan should change to rugby league !

Thoughts on this Eddie Howe comment, Toon fans?
He's got some nerve saying we were good off the ball, we never even put a tackle in! 😡
bazzak57293d ago
Eddie shut up with the comments on TV and do your JOB get the team playing good football with pride for the Fans
bazzak57293d ago
Eddie the fans will not forget this the team is a mess
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iainroundtree293d ago
It was a poor response, we lacked passion commitment and enthusiasm Gordon was hardly there Elanga was a no show waltermeade was isolated far to often and we didn't press enough we didn't press enough forward

How can this Newcastle team get fans back onside after losing to Sunderland?
bazzak57293d ago
Drop Elanga and Gordon
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iainroundtree293d ago
Have to step up there game literally and have to try as hard as they can no words need saying as they say actions speak louder than words
rosie.tudball294d ago
No words, just actions.
The whole inept 90 minutes, disgraceful performance
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Finish this sentence, the worst thing about Newcastle United's defeat to Sunderland was _
layates293d ago
Wasting Isak’s fee on Elanga and Ramsay. Awful signings.
penny2016leolucy2013293d ago
Newcastle made two disastrous signings, Elanga and Ramsey, this after selling Anderson to Nottingham Forest for a pittance. If Howe continues to make selection and substitution mistakes I can see him going out of the door.
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tom.procter294d ago
Just seemed to play with fear

Anthony Elanga had a day to forget against Sunderland 😟 Would starting Jacob Murphy have changed things?!
james.brooke294d ago
Elanga needs to play himself into form, but I'd have gone with Murphy definitely. Loves the club, loves the big games, should have played
james.rutherford294d ago
Maybe not, but the decision to start Elanga was crazy. He's been a terrible signing, and to start him away in the derby was really odd by Howe. Barnes or Murphy should have started.
jakob.barnes294d ago
Murphy didn't do much when he came on. I'd have started Barnes - he was one of the only players who looked up for it when he came on
Didn't watch the game, however, Sunderland deserved to win, they've played great all season and we are so inconsistent it's unreal. We need a good hard kick up the rear end, we just aren't playing well enough, FACT!
jonathan.gorrie294d ago
Oh agreed on Sunderland deserving it, painful as that is to say. Agreed on the players too, do you think it's a mentality issue?

Shearer's derby verdict is in! Too harsh or not harsh enough?
I think he's spot on 😠
jakob.barnes294d ago
He's understating it let's be honest. They might as well have not shown up
james.rutherford294d ago
We never looked like scoring, even when we were dominating possession.

Who was Newcastle United's most disappointing player vs Sunderland?
Feel free to list all of them in the comments 👀
keithbell954292d ago
Its not has important losing a game if you know your team has given 100% and fought tooth and nail. But at the moment those games are getting to be far and few between. Need to sign some good quality players regardless of cost. Not rely on cheap, young untried players.yet
james.brooke294d ago
Gordon - looks like a world beater one game and an egg beater the next. No consistency at all
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jakob.barnes294d ago
Woltemade was poor but I think that was more to do with how isolated he was. Elanga, on the other hand, was abysmal! What was Howe thinking??

How has the loss to Sunderland made you feel about Eddie Howe as Newcastle United manager?
stephenrobson7884293d ago
He is still one of the best in the game, he should make his own decisions on team selection and substitutes and stop listening to his side kicks on the touch line
amirmir293d ago
Yes, the performances have been unacceptable. But he has earned the right to turn this around.
penny2016leolucy2013293d ago
Howe has always been frightened to make mistakes, he is getting worse. If Kane was bought Howe would put him on the bench for the first two games saying he was not fit enough for Premier League football!

Give us your immediate (clean) reaction to whatever that 'performance' was!
james.rutherford294d ago
Disgraceful. We looked scared.
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liam.mcmillen294d ago
Toothless!
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Was this just unlucky or could Nick Woltemade have done anything differently?
liam.mcmillen294d ago
The OG equivalent of the striker's tackle!
davidcomerford3199294d ago
You'll struggle to find a more bizarre OG this season

What should Eddie Howe's team talk be ahead of the second half?
jonathan.gorrie294d ago
Players need to get their head in the game. The tactics are broadly fine - the execution of them is what is letting us down!

What have you made of Nick Woltemade's performance for Newcastle United so far?
I don't want to be harsh to a player who has already given so much BUT.....
fhogg294d ago
Waste of money, he has no attributes , slow, poor first touch, slow, weak, never wins an arial duel, never makes runs into the box.. how Newcastle wasted all that money in the summer, they need to sort out their scouting system
jonathan.gorrie294d ago
Too weak so far. I do not like being critical of him but that wasn't good enough
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Right then, who's going to score first? And let's keep it positive! 😂
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This is what we live for! Forget the nerves - I'm now asking you how many goals Newcastle will WIN by today?
jonathan.gorrie294d ago
Fancy us to win it by one goal, late on to really silence the crowd 😍
The team news is in! That's a BIG call on Anthony Elanga - how are you feeling now the XI is out?
maliajohn71294d ago
3 points for the makems
james.rutherford294d ago
Stunned elanga is starting. Glad Miley is in midfield.
jonathan.gorrie294d ago
Unless Barnes has picked up a knock, it does feel harsh!
Which Newcastle United player do you trust most to handle the pressure of a Tyne-Wear derby?
jonathan.gorrie294d ago
Bruno and Burn to stand up and be counted 💪
james.rutherford294d ago
Bruno definitely.
If you couldn't say Shola Ameobi, who is the one Newcastle player you instantly think about from Tyne-Wear derby history?
keeleyreed294d ago
Shearer
scott.mason295d ago
Kevin Nolan!
jonathan.gorrie295d ago
Ryan Taylor!
Anthony Gordon is Newcastle United's best hope of beating Sunderland on Sunday. Prove me wrong.
james.brooke295d ago
Needs to just pretend he's playing in the Champions League. Might be tough against the Mackems though, that will never happen 🤣
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jonathan.gorrie295d ago
Big-game player! He can silence the Stadium of Light!
So much has been made about the midfield and goalkeeper selection dilemmas, but who are you starting in central defence?
carrickfan21295d ago
Dan Burn has to start, he gets what this game is all about
scott.mason295d ago
Burn has to start. If Pope is fit, he has to start. Thiaw starts too.
james.brooke295d ago
As long as Thiaw is playing I'm not sure it matters too much. He is the main man
I think I'd start Lewis Miley instead of Tonali
jonathan.gorrie296d ago
Big call! Tonali has been off it of late, so I can see what you mean. Would you go for Joelinton then?
Miley gets the second, Burn to get the third
jonathan.gorrie296d ago
Love it! And who for the fourth?! 😂
This is our predicted Newcastle XI to face Sunderland! Would you make any changes?
rexn294d ago
Just a personal thing but boyhood supporters should be up for it, so Miley and Murphy would be starters for me.
keeley295d ago
Miley to start
david.torr2296d ago
Ramsdale should start but this is the best team
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Who are you starting in midfield vs Sunderland? 🤔
carrickfan21295d ago
Bruno, Joelinton and Tonali… have to go with the strongest three
billy.meyers295d ago
Miley has to start with Bruno and Tonali - need a local lad in there who understands the importance of this game!
scott.mason295d ago
Bruno, Tonali, Joelinton!
It doesn't look like we're wearing black and white on Sunday - how do you feel about that?⚫⚪
carrickfan21295d ago
For the best! Kit clash would be too much
keeley295d ago
It’s so annoying!
scott.mason296d ago
My eyes wouldn't handle both teams wearing stripes with white on it.
You can pick one player to score the winner against Sunderland on Sunday, who are you going for?
mark296d ago
Gordon...lads on 🔥
scott.mason296d ago
Sandro Tonali, Sandro Tonali, he drinks Moretti, eats spaghetti, and he hates Sunderland 🎵 If he scored the winning goal, the away end would go off
daniel.owen296d ago
Miley or Burn, for the funny factor