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Manchester United at Chelsea LIVE - Premier League

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Seems we have bought a third injured player at the time of signing with Mount Sesko and now Baleba often missing in action why don't we ever learn

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stephenjholmes11d ago

Our recruitment department is consistent in terms of, the quality of recruits. Unfortunately they set themselves low target's, and still fail to achieve them.

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stephenjholmes11d ago

I have said previously. We seem to employ players that are made of glass. Whilst conducting the medical, I can't believe that the players reflexes are tested using the little hammer, as most would be on crutches before completing the medical otherwise. I remember when we wanted Ruud. He was injured, and so we waited 12 months to sign him once recovered🤔

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dancoombs1d ago

It’s definitely not the best start!

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JJ Gabriel has now got his European passport and could go to Real Madrid for £8.3 million in January but personally I'd make Real wait until the summer because of the way he and his family has treated United

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stephenjholmes12d ago

I am more concerned by the way he has been treated. Just looking at the total refusal to use any of the academy prospects would be sending huge alarm bells to his father. As a footballing prospect, you can vanish into obscurity if not handled properly. I can't think of anyone other than Kobbie who has prospered since Rashford, and we nearly lost him.

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For the Roma game Martinez shouldn't start and if Amad is unfit Lacey should start not Zirkzee as Mbuemo should be number 9 and i'm not convinced using Dalot at LB it means he has to come inside to use his stronger right foot as he's useless trying to cross with his left and I think Rashford is wor his ticket eithhis so called injury jury

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stephenjholmes13d ago

Who gives a fc11k if Amad is fit or not? He hasn't contributed a goal, or an assist since he returned. Give Lacey his place. If Lacey contributes nothing (ala Amad) then he gets subbed. Same at LB. Give Harry Amass a start and tie Dalot to Martinez. I wouldn't even give you a penny for both of those Guys

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stephenjholmes13d ago

Who gives a fcuk if Amad is fit or not? He hasn't contributed a goal, or an assist since he returned. Give Lacey his place. If Lacey contributes nothing (ala Amad) then he gets subbed. Same at LB. Give Harry Amass a start and tie Dalot to Martinez. I wouldn't even give you a penny for both of those Guys

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stephenjholmes13d ago

Who gives a fcuk if Amad is fit or not? He hasn't contributed a goal, or an assist since he returned. Give Lacey his place. If Lacey contributes nothing (ala Amad) then he gets subbed. Same at LB. Give Harry Amass a start and tie Dalot to Martinez. I wouldn't even give you a penny for both of those Guys!

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17th in the table - Do United need to take finishing in the bottom three as a serious threat?

How worried are YOU about the R word?

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geldroper3d ago

That is the only way we get real soccer in England.Basic good wages with a insentive to make it great. They do not deserve those payouts for doing nothing

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jjflash4223d ago

I think the only way is a basic wage for each with incentives,eg.assists,clean sheets,goals etc.I know it won't work legally but I remember onana complaining when we weren't in Europe,that he had to take a 20% pay cut or some figure close to it.That will perk them up.

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stephenjholmes13d ago

Worried enough to have put £20 on us getting relegated. I got 33-1 so at least if the worst we're to happen,I drown my sorrows. Best case scenario, I lost £20. I can definitely live with loosing £20

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kyle.dimond4d ago

Absolutely. I’m not sure this problem is going to sort itself out and you’re putting a lot of hope in a new manager turning things around

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caleb.sage4d ago

They’ll be fine once they sack Carrick and get their customary new manager bounce😅

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ssahibdeen85d ago

I can’t help but think about Spurs last season with all their solid players, multiple coaching changes and relegation fight up to the last day of the season. I never thought that Man United would find themselves in that situation. But it could become a reality. LIcha also reminds me of Romero, who I believe intentionally played his way out out of the team

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vatsal4d ago

@ssahibdeen8 We loved Martinez because he burned all bridges with Ajax to force a move to Man Utd. I'm afraid we're at the wrong end of the same thing happening now!

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thetruthpersonified5d ago

Are you suggesting that Argentinian players lack integrity?

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daviescallum425d ago

Yes because the other lower teams are actually picking up points. United are sinking fast

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jackgallagher5d ago

It's not looking pretty, serious overhaul of players needed again. Bring in the right defenders in Jan and they'll climb up, but will be a struggle til then

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stephenjholmes13d ago

We are saying the same every year. The current players aren't good enough.

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aryansurajc5d ago

They’ll catch up a little bit but this season is going to be disastrous and yeah Car is going out soon!

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dantowen819515d ago

I first said it during the Tottenham game. This feels like a death spiral now - I’ve actually convinced myself I’d take relegation if it meant getting rid of the Glazers at last

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dancoombs4d ago

I don’t think they would leave if we got relegated. Not sure the misery would be worth it

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thetruthpersonified5d ago

Trouble is. It may not and we may not get back swiftly. Even if we did, the financial damage would be significant.

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donaghcorby19975d ago

It’s perhaps too early in the season to sound the alarms just yet, but Spurs found themselves in a very similar and frightening position recently, while West Ham actually did end up dropping. Something needs to change, and it might be a lot deeper than the team on the pitch

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stephenjholmes15d ago

You keep kicking the can down the road. We will be opening our Christmas presents while having not even picked up any more points. Coventry were my 3 pointer (not on current form).

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dancoombs5d ago

I don’t believe this team are capable of going on a run to save themselves if they really need to. There is something badly wrong with the club at the moment

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philcolli724d ago

@dancoombs I fear we face a genuine threat of relegation this season. How many of this squad genuinely want to play for the shirt and are worthy of it. If relegation what we need to get rid of the lazy players and the glazers

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davecarey284d ago

@dancoombs you have it spot on seriously wrong! How come we get a new manager and then after a year or so we are back to square one, it has to be the setup and management.

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seanfisher5d ago

It’s a serious threat, absolutely. And your weekly reminder 🚨 THIS IS ALL ON AMAZON’S CAMERAS 😭

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matthew.johns5d ago

I think I would still be surprise if they went down, but United certainly cannot be complacent as that is where they are currently headed.

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shamanth.jayaram5d ago

United will stay up but they really should see it as a threat. The PL is tougher than ever now and there are no easy wins anymore. Got to get the next managerial appointment right

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stephenjholmes15d ago

This goes way beyond the manager. The whole circus that is our club is infested with rats.

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jordan.harris5d ago

Given that Sunderland and Forest are probably going to get their act together at some point, absolutely. However I still can’t comprehend them getting relegated

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will.butcher5d ago

The way they are making individual mistakes, absolutely no doubt they will be in a relegation battle if things continue going the way they are

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dakir.thanveer5d ago

Not at all! Don't see it happening at all but it's humiliating nevertheless to be there

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chillout5d ago

West Ham, Newcastle, Leeds, Nottingham Forest, Manchester City, Leicester City - all Premier League clubs too good to go down who were relegated! That said, I find it unimaginable that United can’t start to put some results together and pulling away to mid-table security.

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stephenjholmes13d ago

In our current predicament, it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility to see us do a Leicester. We have truly swapped places with City. League 1 isn't looking like too much of an exaggeration presently. Every day just seems to present a new low point. How on earth can they keep avoiding decisive action. I will be amazed if our knights survive this😭

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stephenjholmes15d ago

We could have been picking up points all the time. It is the total refusal to try and give ANY of our academy lads a game. MC should be done for treason, the way he has spat on the whole DNA of United

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adnan.riaz5d ago

'Serious threat?' Of course it is. We are literally in Spurs' position from last season. It should be a major concern.

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stephenjholmes15d ago

I think Spurs position from last season would almost feel like winning the Champions League again. The only way to deal with this on a personal level, is to put a£10 bet on us to go down. At least in the unimaginable reality that we do go down, £250 to drown your sorrows. Best case scenario you lose £10.

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seanfisher5d ago

We’re in the bottom three and - I’m not joking - I don’t see us picking up points anywhere 😂 every single game looks like a banana skin

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epi2media5d ago

Unfortunately, Utd became a carcass a long time ago, which has been attracting vultures. Both managers and players now know that non-performance is rewarded with huge pay-offs. There is no motivation to perform - just get through the door and you are set for life. Some nuts are just lucky in life - everyone else work their socks off for a living!

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adnan.riaz5d ago

@epi2media, truly a train wreck from top to bottom. It's depressing to see.

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franrobtradepoint5d ago

Clear out required in January Amass Lacy must be given a chance. It can not get any worse.Current players simply not good enough if im honest.

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adnan.riaz5d ago

@franrobtradepoint, I do not understand why Shea Lacey is not playing more. Same goes for Harry Amass as well.

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kilham.max5d ago

Absolutely, very few teams are too good to go down. Don’t see it happening if they change manager. However, if Carrick remains in charge, it is a very real possibility.

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adnan.riaz5d ago

@kilham.max, it really is a problem. Any team can be relegated from the Premier League when they fall as hard as Man Utd have done.

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shaunlmallen5d ago

Yes and changing the manager will not help although I agree he should be sacked but unless they change the structure then nothing will change. No decent manager will work with the two ex city incompetents or sir dim .so championship here we come .never thought id live to see it again

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chillout5d ago

I’m not sure about that - United are a massive club; I think any manager with ambition would jump at the chance of turning this giant around. I think it is worse than it looks - it won’t take much for the feel good factor to be back (but I do agree that the club needs systemic change - and probably new owners. Jim & Co seem to have made it worse).

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adnan.riaz5d ago

@shaunlmallen, I agree. We saw it with Ruben. We were lucky not to be relegated that season after Erik ten Hag was sacked.

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jonny6d ago

Not worried, I think Carrick goes after the Villa game ( I assume his replacement said he won’t come until the international break ) and then we should pick up points quickly with competent coaching

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stephenjholmes15d ago

Yes Carrick needs to be gone, but who is convincing him to play the dross whilst ignoring the likes of Lacey? Whoever is doing that needs to be gone. I wouldn't allow anyone from the training team to enter Carrington again. Wilcox should be put in stocks and pelted with the sh!t he has subject our great club too

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chillout5d ago

It seems almost impossible that there won’t be a new manager bounce - and I think the fans will also have a big part to play in the coming weeks. Whatever they think of the owners and the Board, they need to get behind and motivate the players - even those who have let themselves and the fans down.

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adnan.riaz5d ago

@jonny, probably makes sense. It's the only time that Ineos have a chance to provide some breathing room in getting the 'right' appointment in place.

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thetruthpersonified6d ago

I think you are correct. I hold the same belief.

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Lisandro Martinez sees RED as Manchester United LOSE to Chelsea: What is your INSTANT REACTION?

What does this defeat mean for Michael Carrick? The players keep letting him down...

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joecut14d ago

It was sickening how Lisandro Martinez let his manager, his teammates, and the fans down against Chelsea. His stupidity ruined United’s revival this season. The team's first-half play gave us hope. With Martinez, there was always a danger he could ruin it for us. He did. Two bookable offences in just 90 minutes. Unbelievable!

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css5d ago

Martinez once again shows who he really is, a hack. The Butcher is just that and its time to sit him and unload him in January.

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homoar5d ago

why not put on Lacey to try improve the finishing, as none in the team knows how to score

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matthew.johns5d ago

It just keeps going from bad to worse for United, I don’t think the blame lies with him but Carrick’s days are numbered…

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stephenjholmes15d ago

I really want Michael to succeed. He is making it impossible though. He keeps using the same underperforming dross, and yet never tried a different approach. Academy players CAN make a difference. We don't need to have a team full of them, but Lacey, and Amass even being given a chance would be a start. Don't change, and nothing changes!

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james.brooke5d ago

Unsurprising really. Don’t think Chelsea have been as bad as their fans are making out. Roma is a big one now. Very winnable CL game. Clearly they want to back Carrick, or just don’t have a viable alternative, otherwise he’d be gone already. Europe could give a platform to build from again or could sink them even lower

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stephenjholmes15d ago

They will play the kids against Roma. We will win, and every one of the academy players will get 10 out of 10 rating, then they will never step foot on the grass again! Sound familiar?

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donaghcorby19975d ago

Is that poor fella ever going to be able to cut his hair?

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jonathan.gorrie6d ago

Martinez has checked out. Thinks he's above it. Fine to slam Wilcox but at least get your own house in order! Dreadful

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paulsworld716d ago

Martinez has already decided he wants out and as soon as he can. He wants Atletico. If he plays, it’s like knowing you have a fifth column in your team who can let you down at any moment.

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caleb.sage6d ago

Football is fine margins man. United could have easily won that game in the first half.

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stephenjholmes15d ago

We could have won against Brighton, but it just seems that we are determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in every game.

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stephenjholmes16d ago

I cant wait to be playing against Bolton again next season. It's like going back in time to the inception of the Premier league !

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lrandall12106d ago

He’s always been a liability

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daviescallum426d ago

What an idiot, I’d be furious with Martinez if I was a United fan.

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shamanth.jayaram6d ago

Should Wilcox come out and question Martinez now? Sadly, Carrick has to go and these players need someone they fear. Conte is that man

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stephenjholmes15d ago

The only thing Wilcox needs to say is goodbye. I actually thing Boris Johnson would be better than Wilcox, and I despise that dirty blue ba57ard. We have been destroyed as a club since SAF, and the clueless board are putting the final nails in our coffin ⚰️

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antonymmartin846d ago

Poor from him to even give the ref a decision to make, but…that was so, so soft.

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stephenjholmes16d ago

@antonymmartin84 there was nothing soft about that. The ball wasn't even in the same postcode when he threw himself at the player. Their was zero defence to his lunge. Especially considering he had just been carded anyway.

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jjflash4226d ago

It was so soft but totally inept defending.Since when does a defender not look at the oppo in the box and just crash into him.It was stonewall,he's checked out.

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kyle.dimond6d ago

Never liked Martinez’s attitude but an awful showing from him today. Doesn’t feel like the players have much faith in Carrick or belief that they can turn bad situations around.

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geldroper6d ago

Get rid of that loser as quick as possible. He planned this because a hit like that mkes no sense. He is doing everything in his power to get sold and get rid of MC. He was the 12th man on Chelsea and any other team

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febced16d ago

Let him leave immediately, as his negative attitude is not helping anyone. He's just going through the motions. Carrick must also go as he has offers ZERO managerial expertise.

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dancoombs6d ago

I really do think the club will push to try and sell him in January

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luksricky6d ago

I have realised today that it's not MC, rather these imbecile players.. fk

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dancoombs6d ago

Yeah, I know the results aren’t improving but I don’t really see how they could sack him after that.

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jordan.harris6d ago

Martinez should never get to play for the club again. Embarrassing

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deansexton466d ago

Bruno needs to go to

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dancoombs6d ago

He should have scored in the first half. So wasteful. Complete lack of composure

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deansexton466d ago

we need 2 strikes in January and the a new team starting with Wilkox gone

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james.brooke5d ago

Which two strikers could you realistically get in January who are good enough? I doubt there’ll even be one available

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seanfisher6d ago

Yep, if any change of manager is made (it should) then it HAS to be joined by Wilcox leaving

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seanfisher6d ago

There is a real rot in this team, attitude problems just spreading throughout the squad. Feel for Carrick, but also don’t see him as the guy to turn it all around, so hard to see where we go next? Conte?

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dancoombs6d ago

I don't think they have the bottle for Conte. But who knows, they may get desperate

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dancoombs6d ago

The players have let Michael Carrick down again. I do think his job will be safe for the next couple of games vs Roma and Aston Villa at least, despite ANOTHER defeat

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seanfisher6d ago

Do you really think he can turn it around with two extra games though? I just don’t see it getting any better sadly

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dale.odonnell6d ago

Martinez has let everyone down and should never play for United again. Collapsed after a strong first-half display.

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kyle.archer6d ago

Carrick's refusal to even look at Martinez as he headed down the tunnel should be a sign that he will not feature again for a very long time, but do Man Utd have enough alternatives to freeze him out?

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dancoombs6d ago

At least he is suspended next weekend. I doubt he starts vs Roma either

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jjflash4226d ago

Martinez clearly doesn't give a toss.He helped to wave Rogers thru for his walk through goal and couldn't get booked+sent off quick enough.Totally pathetic from him.I think maguire is a statue but that should be martinezs last game.Good riddance.

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david.comerford6d ago

Carrick won't survive much longer but that loss was on the players. The lack of discipline in the 2nd half shows they've given up on this manager

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chillout6d ago

Hopefully he will get a decent payoff. I can’t see Carrick getting another Premier League any time soon. Might be a job to do at West Ham soon.

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Chelsea makes a change

IN: Geovany Quenda OUT: Cole Palmer 90+7'

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Yellow card for Chelsea's Mike Penders! 90+3'

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Yellow card for Joshua Zirkzee! 88'

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Chelsea makes a change

IN: Valentin Barco OUT: Pedro Neto 87'

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Chelsea makes a change

IN: Malo Gusto OUT: Estêvão Willian Almeida de Oliveira Gonçalves 87'

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Yellow card for Bryan Mbeumo! 81'

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IN: Joshua Zirkzee OUT: Amad Diallo 77'

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Goal ruled out for Chelsea 2-0

VAR rules out Estêvão Willian Almeida de Oliveira Gonçalves's goal

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Chelsea makes a change

IN: Pep Chavarria OUT: Marco Palestra 74'

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Estêvão scores for Chelsea 3-0 71'

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dancoombs6d ago

Disallowed 👀

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Yellow card for Kobbie Mainoo! 70'

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IN: Ayden Heaven OUT: Andrey Santos 66'

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IN: Mason Mount OUT: Matheus Cunha 66'

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Yellow card for Harry Maguire! 65'

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C. Palmer scores a penalty for Chelsea 2-0 64'

Scored from the penalty spot

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geldroper6d ago

Martinez had a game plan and that was to trow Carrick under the bus. He should never play for us again

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seanfisher6d ago

Lammens has to save that too.. just so many things going wrong

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dancoombs6d ago

Not saved one yet for us

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M. Rogers scores for Chelsea 1-0 50'

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Red card to Lisandro Martínez! 63'

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daviescallum426d ago

🤡

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franrobtradepoint6d ago

Got it wrong from the start. Yoro is not a full back.He should have been at the back and Amass should of been at fullback. Thats Carricks choice If Mainoo was fit for the last 30 minutes.He should of started the game. Thats Carricks choice. Two down you bring Mason mount on. With Lacy sat on the bench. Thats Carricks choice. Need i go on.

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mohan183106d ago

I think it's better to watch ,follow & support the women's team who are playing well rather than watchin these pathetic players & ruining our emotional well-being & mental health

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Penalty to Chelsea!

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mohan183106d ago

😂😂 MC must be sacked for trusting Martinez over & over. thinking he is a Messiah

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dancoombs6d ago

So close for Lammens

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Martinez off and penalty to Chelsea. It’s over

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jordan.harris6d ago

Just an awful excuse of a ‘professional’

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stephenjholmes16d ago

Michael can't be responsible for Martinez actions, but he has still not given any fringe players a chance. The performance may have been better, but we will still see the usual result. I said before the game, we will get nothing out of any game before Coventry. We're going down

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epi2media6d ago

He has been playing like this all season! Buggers believe how Utd Analysts have not picked this up till now. Been costing Utd loads🤔

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Yellow card for Lisandro Martínez! 59'

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IN: Kobbie Mainoo OUT: Carlos Baleba 58'

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stephenjholmes16d ago

Forget it. We're history

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adnan.riaz6d ago

Great. We're now chasing a match. I can't even anymore...

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stephenjholmes16d ago

Still no Lacey. Is Balaba injured? I want to see him paired with Kobbie

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dancoombs6d ago

Again

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Too easy for Rogers to walk through our midfield and defence. Such a poor way to start the second half

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barryroberts726d ago

I think that's it for Carrick now, doesn't matter if we played better or not, Ineos can't take the chance of relegation. Yes we know who's at fault but we need new ideas. 9 on the run in all comps not since approx 1984.

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mohan183106d ago

Martinez ruining another match for us, why he is playing even & a red card too. MC deserves to be sacked for trusting him again & again.

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mohan183106d ago

How frequent have we not seen these kind of goals scored against us, some one just running through the entire 6-7 red player unopposed & scoring. Let's hope we get relegated so Glazers & Ineos will have shame & quit the club as they will not get the money which they need from Manutd anymore

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adnan.riaz6d ago

@mohan18310, it's so crazy. Teams carve through us like butter and I cannot believe it at all.

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dancoombs6d ago

It seems to happen every other game. Missing that Casemiro destroyer in midfield despite all the money spent

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Chelsea 0–0 Manchester United

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adnan.riaz6d ago

HOW is this match still 0-0? For either side? One of the wildest performances I've ever seen.

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david.comerford6d ago

The advantage for United here is that Chelsea are clearly low on confidence too. It's a game that suits them in a way, all the pressure on a team who can't necessarily handle it

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dancoombs6d ago

We are playing maybe the one team in the league that like us doesn’t have a centre forward

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adnan.riaz6d ago

@david.comerford, Man Utd have played well. But momentum is key now and I'm not sure if it will last going into the second half.

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david.comerford6d ago

Well, not *all* of the pressure, but definitely all of the expectation

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That Welbeck 90+6 dagger is going to be so painful after these missed chances

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adnan.riaz6d ago

Don't even need Welbeck at this point... So annoying, man.

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mohan183106d ago

Welbeck will score for sure & be difference maker to put us wondering how the Ineos didnt even try to get him.

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adnan.riaz6d ago

@mohan18310, it's Ineos. They're allergic to signing forwards, as you saw in the summer window.

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You can tell Amad hasn’t scored a goal since December

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stephenjholmes16d ago

I have been shouting for Lacey all season.

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dancoombs6d ago

You have. Michael isn’t listening

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mohan183106d ago

Yah Amad is showing as i already know he is a showboat, not good enough to represent Manutd. I don't know what end product he has to get so many chances & be in playing squad too. he should go & play 2-3 division lower & get his mojo back, then get a transfer & spare us from his performance

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dancoombs6d ago

They should probably give Lacey a go if this continues

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adnan.riaz6d ago

It's a shame that there aren't 10-foot nets at Stamford Bridge. We could be 5-0 up at this rate.

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dancoombs6d ago

So frustrating

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Goal ruled out for Manchester United 0-0

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dancoombs6d ago

Got to get one before HT we are well on top

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adnan.riaz6d ago

@dancoombs, it's going to come back to bite us if we don't. I'm so nervous that we lose this momentum in the second half.

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freddie6d ago

Need to capitalise!

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VAR strikes again back to 0-0

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adnan.riaz6d ago

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Matheus Cunha scores for Manchester United 0-1 34'

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seanfisher6d ago

We should’ve scored 2 at this point, can’t believe it’s 0-0

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adnan.riaz6d ago

Damn, that sucks for us, man. But at least we've been playing pretty well so far. Famous last words...

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dancoombs6d ago

VAR is going to kill this isn’t it

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adnan.riaz6d ago

@dancoombs, it was fun while it lasted. Goddamnit.

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adnan.riaz6d ago

LET'S GOOOOO!

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Is every Man Utd player allergic to shooting? 😭

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dancoombs6d ago

I know, that Mbeumo one I just shouted ‘back yourself!’

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adnan.riaz6d ago

@dancoombs, right? Damn. It's been so frustrating.

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adnan.riaz6d ago

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Bruno HAD to score that. What a miss

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stephenjholmes16d ago

Av a bit of that!

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stephenjholmes16d ago

It actually looks like we could get something out of this. The boys are definitely putting in a shift!

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adnan.riaz6d ago

@stephenjholmes1, it's nice to see them finally turn up. About time after the shocking start we've had.

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freddie6d ago

They are so far but it’s very early!

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dancoombs6d ago

They are giving it a go. There’s nothing between the two teams on this evidence

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freddie6d ago

That was his chance!!!

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dancoombs6d ago

The way Chelsea are defending, he will get another

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Goal ruled out for Chelsea 0-0

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freddie6d ago

Would have been the worst possible start 😂

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adnan.riaz6d ago

I honestly had my hands in my head for a moment. Phew.

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We have made it through the first 10 without conceding…

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stephenjholmes16d ago

Soooooo close

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adnan.riaz6d ago

What a time to be alive! Haha. On a serious note, it's actually decent how we've been playing. A shame we lacked this level of consistency up until this point.

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dancoombs6d ago

We have just looked decent enough I just worry about heads dropping if we concede first

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