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adnan.riaz22d ago

He was well within his right to say what he did. How anyone can disagree with him baffles me!

vijayrajh5323d ago

DChcsOhraita This guy Martinez performance on the field is awful especially against 10 men Tottenham and he has no business to talk such nonsense. Good teams are built by focussing on fundamentals, proper coaching and training which results in high intensity, creativity and attacking, fluid football on the field. Ineffective Coach is the primary reason.

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adnan.riaz22d ago

He's made a valid point about the lack of investment, which, in turn, has led to us not having enough quality in certain positions?

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deansexton4623d ago

I 150% agree with Martinez we have been lied to from day 1 about what he wants to bring to the club and all he has brought in is a director that couldn't direct traffic and a lot of mediocre players,and all the fans won't say anything

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adnan.riaz22d ago

Spot on. Big up to Martinez for saying it as it is!

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thesaurus0223d ago

ManU continues its downward spiral because we refuse to buy the best players. All we get are substandard rejects from other clubs. Ashworth and Wilcox say they refuse to overpay for players! But the cost we have to pay for these elite players is the GOING RATE! If we don't pay these prices we continue to field substandard teams full of poor players. Carrick

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adnan.riaz22d ago

Wilcox is as bad as Ashworth in my eyes.

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mazambanivs23d ago

Martinez. The Club owners are not responsible for losses to teams with less talent. If you were winning those, but losing to better talented teams, I would agree with you 💯

mazambanivs23d ago

A draw with a team at the bottom of the Premiership League Table has nothing to do with further investment. What would we have expected with an even better team, Athletico?

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dancoombs23d ago

Funnily enough, with better investment, Martinez might have been on the bench vs Spurs

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phillo70.jt23d ago

Lisandro Was 110% Correct. Hopefully that will put a Rocket Up the team, and They Show Up Against Leeds. How on Earth is Dalot getting Game Time???. He gets a Nose Bleed when he gets to the Edge of the Box. He WON'T take the defenders on. He passes back, or EVEN WORSE, passes back to the Keeper, When All the Players ARE WAITING IN THE BOX. A DISGRACE.

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dancoombs23d ago

We are stuck with Dalot atm because Mazraoui is injured 🤕

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terrygreenwood423d ago

VAH EW Od taHW He was 100% right, no question! The overall strategy of Ineos will break the club is something is not done and soon. What do they know about building a team to win things? Nothing, especially the main culprit Jason Wilcox! How can you compete with the best, without recruiting the best? Good old Jason waits to buy their cast off's

rackaraisaac723d ago

Truth pains but it helps when analyse, so Martinez was right to say the board but also the head coach trying players in any position make it hard for them to copy up.

ianratcliffe196923d ago

Hes spot on, the board have not backed Carra, but the players need to take responsibility, they are terrible. No formation, no tactics, no press, we have regressed under Carra

davidmort194723d ago

Martinez is showing professional pride and passion, unlike some other players who are no more than mercenaries. He has probably destroyed his chances of a new contract at Old Trafford but he has shown commitment.

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geldroper22d ago

He should put the finger at himself before being a douche. Half the goals against Man U have been his fault and he should be happy to still be playing and not be a late sub. After the worldcup he had np intention to stay in England so sell him as soon as posible

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derekf23d ago

Wilcox up

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dancoombs23d ago

I hope Carrick keeps him in the team v Leeds, it would send them wrong message to leave him out and show the board are pulling the strings

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leedavidhawk6823d ago

Absolutely 100 per cent Wilcox has no right being sporting director

julianfcooke23d ago

Thank you Lisandro you spoke truth not gossip. You need proper tools when doing a job.

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aadhias23d ago

I am just curious. What tool do United need? I know our defenders or strikers are not the most prolific ones. But it's hard to comprehend how with the current team, which more or less has the same players for years now, we can't even play a consistent football. Even in most matches, we don't seem capable of doing basic defending work.

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deansexton4623d ago

you know Martinez will be sold now,even though it was TRUE

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barryroberts7223d ago

Martinez was gone anyway either in January if we get a replacement or in the Summer, his contract is up next year so if we want any money for him then, he has to be sold in either January or the Summer window.

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azahammout23d ago

If players were not to blame and played like if they care about the club, I'll support him 100%. But seeing them on the pitch not running with intensity and fighting spirit I cannot support him on that matter! I am always behind the players 100% but their level of commitment on the pitch was inconsistent

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azahammout23d ago

I feel like it is blaming someone else without looking at your own responsibilities. If the players were faultless, I would be supportive. But just whinning won't bring anygood especially now. How the board will react now? Apologise to the players? Bring another players? No and no. Just create tension, put pressure on the club, make useless drama. Need calm

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ebongstephen523d ago

Truth is always bitter

sam.dhaliwal23d ago

Defence will cist us the season.

dale.odonnell23d ago

There are several ways to look at this. 1) he's right in what he says 2) it's easy to speak out when you're likely to leave next summer - with contract expiring 3) it explains why Bruno has looked p***ed off and out of sorts all season/break down in trust with board over false promises 4) it doesn't excuse the fact Martinez hasn't been performing well. ETC

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dancoombs23d ago

I think that’s a great point about Bruno. I can imagine the conversations going on behind the scenes among the players

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niko23d ago

Licha is speaking the minds of the players and the fans. The Glazers/Ratcliffe/Ineos Conundrum is pathetic. They have no record of success in football and if they cannot invest in United by supplying Carrick with the mateials he needs to succeed, they should sell their shares and leave. United need at least 2 new strong center backs and 2 new strong strikers

epi2media23d ago

Is that why he is not running enough in games? Is that why Martinez is costing United goals against Ipswich, Fulham, Tottenham? At least do your job first, then point the finger at someone else. Utd is the worst team in the top two Divisions at the moment in terms of just playing basic football!

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dancoombs23d ago

He is certainly going to be under intense scrutiny now. Even more so than ever

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davecarey2823d ago

OemalB Well he is spot on with his comments, they were so hung up on replacing the midfield they should have looked at the whole team. As for his comments on Radcliffe he seems to have been obsessed with rebuilding the stadium but it's the team that matters. All this when the glaziers have been taking more money out of United each year.

tolros7823d ago

I know you guys love your club, but the real fact is he's saying the truth and I feel that, that's what other players feels too. He has the right to speak his mind and sometimes the truth is bitter to hear.

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dancoombs23d ago

I don’t mind it when a player speaks like this. It shows he cares. It could even spark a reaction

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patrockslowkey23d ago

He wasn't the worst defender in that game.

patrockslowkey23d ago

Might wake them up a bit. I agree with him

freddie23d ago

He was absolutely right to speak out, but he’s one of the ones not good enough…

chiderachristopher05623d ago

His right because whatever that's happening to us (United ❤️) is from the directors and owner's

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geldroper22d ago

mARTINEZ HIMSELF IS PART OF THE BIG PROBLEM. hE IS PLAYING TERRIBLE AND COSTED US A LOT OF GOALS

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kierandoody23d ago

It’s actually refreshing to hear a player come out and speak like this but there’s a time and a place and it isn’t after a performance like that. He makes valid points but it comes across as deflection.

lawalqazeembabatunde23d ago

That's the best way to name the problems.

meggabaits23d ago

It’s right they have to back the coach

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dancoombs23d ago

The players are behind Carrick for now but I think they expect he will be fired, which is why Martinez has done this

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pranav.shahaney23d ago

Interesting to see Martinez and also Amad on Snapchat going after the ones above the manager. Player power in a dressing room with the manager involved against the board is an interesting dynamic and I’m really keen on seeing how it all pans out

barryhhd23d ago

There has been one constant in all these years, Fernandes, he's a luxury player, I'm not doubting his talent but we can't carry passengers and to often in games that's what he is, lauded for his assists last season, but let's be real it's only because Casemiro's head was on the end of them !!

amirmir23d ago

It's not Martinez's job to critcise the sporting director, even if he is right, just like it's not the sporting director's job to come out and say Martinez has been shit this season. You don't need ambition in the transfer window to be able to defend a simple cross against Dominic Solanke.

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epi2media23d ago

Spot on!!! Just do what you are being paid to do first, then.....

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jjflash42223d ago

Players,the lack of motivation,no creativity,no intent,no over my dead body attitude.I think Carrick is what he is but is not gd enough for this club as manager.Hes too limited,and these players turn the tap on sometimes but most of the time,they'll bury managers.Wilcox is so poor too but martinez and Co,you try to play to 7/10 once in a while.Thats your job

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jjflash42223d ago

Agree with you+ Stephen,none of these players+management team are upto scratch this season,the performances are down to players and management being amateurish,poorly coached,so unfit,no resilience,no accountability on the pitch,when did martinez last play well for us.We're being cut to pieces by all the oppos,on the pitch stuff is all down to management+

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ericisgod6623d ago

We are, and have been for some time, dictated to by debt. A debt that is none of Utds making. Martinez is right because even though they cant compete with big money signings they could have been more aggresive in pursuit of others. I dont want to see Utd go backwards with the debt but i do think they have to take a punt if they want someone

febced124d ago

His comments are factual, although probably uttered on the wrong stage. This club is in crisis, and Licha acknowledges that. Somebody had to say it. Wazza should admit that the players were disrespectful through their on-field performance.

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geldroper22d ago

MAYBE TRUE BUT SOMEONE WHO HAS COSTED US A LOT OF GOALS SHOULD BE QUIT AND BLAME HIMSELF UNLESS HE IS DOING IT ALL ON PURPOSE TO BE SOLD. aT THE MOMENT HE IS A CANCER

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dancoombs24d ago

I think Rooney should have shown a little leniency, given that he once threatened to leave the club over a lack of investment himself

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barryroberts7224d ago

I don't like Martinez so i don't support him but i do agree with what he says there has been a lack of investment. Ineos have bought younger players but there is a lack of mature players, what happens when Bruno and Maguire leave? those two are real leaders of the team, a voice in the dressing room.

jonny24d ago

“I expected more from the technical director” Wilcox has to go, he’s let down ETH, Amorim and now Carrick and all our senior players who were begging for investment

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freddie23d ago

Is it him tho or the owners not allowing him to spend the money?

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stephenjholmes124d ago

And everyone bigs him up like some kind of messiah. Shop in pound poundland and get staff from poundland!

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stephenjholmes124d ago

Always easy to blame others.

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jonny24d ago

Easy when the blame lies at their feet. United’s biggest problem is not Carrick or the players, it’s Wilcox, Berrada, Ratcliffe and the Glazers

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jonny24d ago

Good on Lisandro. Feels a bit like he wants out and knows he’ll achieve it with this given what happened to Amorim and the timing coming after a decent performance. But it still needed to be said, guarantee he isn’t alone in feeling like this when you see how unhappy Bruno has been all season. Leadership group are making it clear. They need to stand together

markmarston24d ago

Tell you what…. The Netflix documentary is gonna be entertaining at least 🤣

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dancoombs24d ago

I suspect Martinez’s comments won’t make the cut for that particular Ineos vanity project

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jameslloyd14.jl24d ago

Blaming the technical director after some of the performances he’s been putting up lately… the players have to take responsibility

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granitegraham23d ago

Yes , the players need to perform, but we all know that Wilcox and Co are failing the club, the manager , the players and the fans. What was said needed to be said, Amorim said it ,fired , so if Carrick said it he'd be fired , So Martinez has said it ,presumably any hope of a new contract now gone.

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jonny24d ago

Technical director failed to recruit well, has made poor managerial decisions 3 years on the bounce, failed properly back each manager. The players are who they are, United’s problems have always been above and it’s great to see it called out

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markmarston24d ago

Wow. That’s about as scathing as you can expect from an employee. This says a lot. The players know the club is rotten to the core and in desperate need of a proper overhaul… not just a lick of paint. INEOS have BIG questions to answer.

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ericisgod6624d ago

E1 was disappointed with Utd's recruitment drive and whilst i understand the need to stay within budget restraints Utd could have been a little more competitive. Anderson was beyond Utd but there were others Utd should have been in for. The Glazer debt is a handicap and as for INEOS they are in dire str8s atm so we cant rely on them

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jonny24d ago

Ineos run a dictatorship, Martinez will be sold at first time of asking for this, similar to Amorim getting the sack for calling them out

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dancoombs24d ago

I respect him for speaking out. Not sure about the timing, but at least he cares enough to rip into the board

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markmarston24d ago

Probably knows Carrick might be close to getting the boot so he’s trying to take the pressure of him

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dale.odonnell24d ago

I think we're being a bit kind to Baleba. Decent display but even 6 would be pushing it.

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jonny24d ago

Harsh. Performance was not that bad considering, Yoro, Heaven, Baleba and Santos deserve credit

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freddie24d ago

Agreed! He showed a bit of fight but that was about it

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gdollop24d ago

I think Tielemans, Dalot and Bruno should be dropped. They are not up to it. Carrick needs to start getting the team playing with energy and drive. Give some of the youngsters a chance. Amass and Lacy should have had a couple of games this season but haven't been played. I am not expecting utd to win the league but they will be in a relegation battle soon

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dancoombs23d ago

Unfortunately we are stuck with Dalot due to a lack of available full-backs right now

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barryroberts7223d ago

I think they should both or at least one of them will play in the Leeds game.

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stephenjholmes124d ago

Would be worth bringing the youngsters in, even if just to give the likes of Bruno a rest!

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davenport86924d ago

Sad to say Not shocked at all we lost with another piss poor performance.out played out fought Bruno running round like he's in a under 5s game. Carrick's out the door unless he can snap them into shape

tim.sheila.ryan24d ago

I really thought Carrick was the man but I was totally wrong.

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dancoombs24d ago

Martinez’s comments also hinted at a lack of tactical innovation since last season

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markmarston24d ago

Not been helped by that crap summer but it does feel as though he’s out of his depth

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markmarston24d ago

What’s going wrong at the moment United fans… if you were to pinpoint it on one thing?

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barryroberts7223d ago

How long have you got?

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stephenjholmes124d ago

Really easy. Wrong players, poor tactics, totally leck of competitive spirit, and no bravery. Don't change a loosing formula, keep loosing! Michael is trying to play safe. Safe is ok if it keeps bringing wins. If playing safe means negative results something has to change!

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gdollop24d ago

It's more than one thing. Player selection, tactics, and lack of goals to name a few.

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dancoombs24d ago

A lack of confidence and not having a striker doesn’t help. Some promising signs in this performance but tough opposition

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stephenjholmes124d ago

We have 5 losses coming in the next 7 games under the current setup. Baleba and Santos were both better than Tilemans. Dalot is a liability. Give Lacey a chance. He can't possibly do worse than what is going on presently. I would drop Bruno, he needs a rest, and get Mason in. Whilst he is fit he can make a difference. Even giving the fringe players 20 minu

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gdollop24d ago

Totally agree. Carrick needs to be bold or he'll be gone before he's had a chance.

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stephenjholmes124d ago

Lenny needs to stay as a right back. Get rid of Martinez and play Heaven &Maguire in the middle. If Lukes not fit, get Amass involved. Take a risk or drown in the current ses-pit!

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freddie24d ago

Could have been a lot worse… probs should have score at least 1 tho!

dancoombs24d ago

I feared the worse after going 1-0 down after 1 minute. I’d have taken 2-0 at that point We actually had decent chances. Mbeumo and Bruno both should have scored to equalise

dale.odonnell24d ago

Not our worst performance of the season. Conceding that early goal was a major kick into the teeth.

thetruthpersonified24d ago

Match was best summed up as - not as s**t as I expected. Never a red or even a foul in my view. There was a massive gulf in class, professionalism, skill, movement, tactics and team work.. We should have scored, but no surprise we failed to net. Granted we lack a striker, but had plenty of time to drill a plan b.

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dancoombs23d ago

The lack of a striker was just glaringly obvious at the time. We were linked to Tresoldi in the summer, who just scored twice away at Inter tonight

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freddie24d ago

I think it’s a red unfortunately. He got in front and Yoro’s forearm was across his head. Unlucky but think it was correct

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pranav.shahaney24d ago

I know the red card was harsh but I just cannot see Carrick turning things around. Every match just strengthens my belief more. There is no clear plan, the subs don’t make sense. Why was Zirkzee on before Cunha when you need a goal?

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freddie24d ago

I think Carrick is clueless tbh

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stephenjholmes124d ago

Still no movement on the United bench! There's a surprise. MC won't bother until we concede again in the 89th minute, and then he'll bring on 4 defensive substitutions

mohan1831024d ago

Almost 60 mins, MC trust his starting lineup, after 70-75 min only substitution will take place

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stephenjholmes124d ago

He won't change anything until the game is out of sight

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stephenjholmes124d ago

Get Tilemans off for Mount. Dalot off for Amass

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dancoombs24d ago

Just saw those Dalot stepovers. Reminded me of when Phil Neville used to do them

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seanfisher24d ago

Wouldn’t mind Bruno off for Lacey

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dancoombs24d ago

That would be bold. I wonder if we see Mount for Tielemans

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seanfisher24d ago

Probably should both be goals at this level. Can’t be wasting these chances

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adnan.riaz24d ago

Agreed. We look so bland in the attack, man.

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dale.odonnell24d ago

Mbeumo should’ve scored. We also need to make sure we don’t get caught on the break again:

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adnan.riaz24d ago

My heart sinks every time they attack us. Not a good feeling at all.

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mohan1831024d ago

The missed chances are not good..we should score to gain confidence

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adnan.riaz24d ago

We look so toothless with our finishing.

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dancoombs24d ago

Got to take the chances you get in a game like this

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mohan1831024d ago

Typical united🤣. Can't score enough but first in queue for conceeding comical goals. Goals galore in opposite direction it seems😭

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dancoombs24d ago

If anyone turned off after 1 minute I couldn’t blame them

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knightinwhitesatin24d ago

What's going on with our defence an early goal conceded again

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dancoombs24d ago

Worried this could be a humiliating score. A real test of character now

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thatfan24d ago

At least they'll have to attack now. Makes for a better match

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dancoombs24d ago

I fear it will leave us even more open. Got to try and contain them and slow it down

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freddie24d ago

Keep it tigh…. Shit 🤣

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seanfisher24d ago

😭 great way to tame the atmosphere lads

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seanfisher24d ago

Can’t help but laugh. What was that defensive setup 😭

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dancoombs24d ago

After Heaven touched it the ball just went in like a slow motion disaster

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adnan.riaz24d ago

WHAT THE HELL?!

thatfan24d ago

53 seconds 🥺

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adnan.riaz24d ago

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jonny24d ago

Exactly what I expected

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dancoombs24d ago

Disastrous start

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adnan.riaz24d ago

Pure awful. So fed up, man.

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dancoombs24d ago

Will it work? No idea. Am I glad to see Carrick change up the team with fresh ideas? Yes

jonny24d ago

Wow. Big change but maybe what we need, assume it’s a 4312, should fix our midfield balance issue

mdbrislen24d ago

After watching Carrick as a manager over these past several months, I would say that he is overly cautious and traditional. United is still playing a style of football that the better teams were playing a decade or so ago. And with 5 substitutes now available, you can make a change at halftime or bring on a player who can make a difference at 60 minutes.

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stephenjholmes124d ago

Unfortunately he isn't playing Uniteds brand of football from any era. The team have been so lethargic. His biggest failure though is his lack of in game management. His substitutions always come too late to get into the game, and are always the wrong ones. He has his nucleus of players that he uses regardless of form.

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stephenjholmes124d ago

I would be using Mount instead of Tilemans (if available). Amass instead of Dalot who is a liability. He has zero positional discipline. I would also be giving Lacey minutes regardless of how the game goes. If we need players to come in as starters who have had zero minutes, they can't hit the ground running. We have squads for a reason. MC needs to use it!

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mohan1831024d ago

Giving Lacey a chance or any youngster a chance it will not happen in MC regime. We have dreaded CB partnership again with a mistake around the corner always.

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charlesisaacwalker24d ago

Might as well try Fernandes up top as a false nine with Tielemans behind him, Cunha and Mbeumo wings and Baleba and Santos as the two. Fernandes is not playing midfield most of the time. Basically an inverted 4 4 2 that keeps Bruno there.

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knightinwhitesatin24d ago

We could do with Santos stepping up he seems to have become anonymous he needs to play in games like this to give someone a rest for the league games

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matt.suth124d ago

Balaba, Santos, Tielemans as a 3 midfield

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dancoombs24d ago

Could be worth a look. Bruno could do with a rest

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h29q8gcjjc24d ago

I agree with this predicted eleven.

melvin.tassell24d ago

Amass at LB and dalot in his best position, give the kid a chance

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teufelshund7724d ago

Dalots best position is in the carpark, selling scarves

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stephenjholmes124d ago

Dalot in his best position is the bench! He is a defensive liability.

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dancoombs24d ago

I think based on past selection, Carrick won’t be brave enough to select Amass

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cshermanseattle24d ago

Martinez out, Heaven in.

ericbkchirwa24d ago

for me rashford for cucha and sesko for mbeumo 🔥🔥🔥

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dancoombs24d ago

Sesko is out with injury again, unfortunately

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dale.odonnell25d ago

The only change I would make is Heaven for Maguire.

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thetruthpersonified25d ago

Heaven for Martinez surely? It is not Maguire who has made 4 big errors leading to goals this season...

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stephenjholmes125d ago

This is going to only have 1 result, if the management don't grow a pair. If the starting 11 resembles what we have been seeing we will be taught a lesson. Simeone will not accept a lack of effort from his players, and if MC carries on with the same dross we will concede 5+

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dancoombs25d ago

I don’t expect us to win based on current form. I’d take a draw and even that’s optimistic

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