West Ham vs QPR/Championship game 9

bilichammer12332d ago

SYTLAAKK Var is the enemy in all the Premier why would anyone want that ffs. The decision on a few things can be kept with it but a arm or leg giving offside or something missed ten plays back stopping a goal scored is becoming really stupid in the game. Waiting for var decisions spoiling the whole idea of a great sport is not nessary . Just keep to basics

markmarston33d ago

Needs to come into the game…. There’s £200m at stake for promotion

parrysite33d ago

Whilst I hate VAR with a passion, sometimes, as the panel seem to be the only people that can't see the real truth, I could not believe how wrong Ruebyn Ricardo got it. Even if it was disputable whether Souchek fouled Smyth - and I don't think there's much doubt, he didn't - to not see that the incident happened outside the penalty area was unacceptable.

jacqueline.beresford33d ago

No

nickdomjan34d ago

Too much of a culture shock, right now we have to get used to lesser protection from the officials and get tougher.....the matches would be stopping every few seconds

caleb.sage34d ago

Football league fans are a bit more old-school compared to Premier League supporters. They’re going to hate it lol.

harveyleonard9935d ago

That decision last night was surely bad enough to turn even the most anti var fans somewhat pro

saillash_manek135d ago

I feel that it would be a good thing as a lots of mistakes by referees. Look at game last night. It cost us a win. 3 points.

ericmartinhowell35d ago

There should be a half way step towards full VAR in Premier League. Any penalty/big issue call by the ref, should automatically be viewed on the big screen, only on the REF CALL, he has three other pair of eyes to rely on for other calls, and he should do so. Mistakes like this one, is not fair, at the end of the season, for any team.

krip245435d ago

Despite the poor decision, we must keep VAR out of the EFL. It's killing the game.

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dantowen8195135d ago

You’re completely right. It’s ridiculous to have thousands of fans sitting there in a stadium for 5 minutes with no idea what the ref is looking at

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jonathan.gorrie35d ago

No thank you! Although given how much money rides on promotion, it's not hard to see the clubs who come down from the PL pushing for it with more decisions like the QPR peno!

kyle.dimond35d ago

I don’t mind it only being in the prem but I think with how much is at stake for some clubs, it’s only a matter of time. Not a big fan but I understand it

dbwhu5835d ago

No thanks

james.brooke35d ago

I think it should be all or nothing to be honest, so if they’re keeping it in the Prem, it should be across the board in the Football League as well

lrandall121035d ago

I feel like it would cause too much controversy, they miss decisions even with it

whitefordstw35d ago

var makes mistakes

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dantowen8195135d ago

Yep, Man United fans will tell you that after the derby debacle last month 😂

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kyle.archer35d ago

Given the money at stake in the promotion fight, Championship clubs should be desperate for VAR (as long as the EFL can hire competent refereers to run it).

laurajr195835d ago

Would hate it. Even VAR doesn't get it right. Just need a higher standard from referees.

reubengane535d ago

Referee 1/10 the 1 is for turning up! In fairness we were poor while the QPR players each gave 100% and only finished the game with only 8 fit players, it's time for a change of the Manager someone who could glue our talented players up.

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dantowen8195135d ago

I think if Staveley had gotten that takeover done we’d have made a move for Howe by now

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george.patten35d ago

No. I refuse to believe the majority want VAR in the Champ. I’d choose bad referee decisions over bad VAR deicisons anyday

charlesjones35d ago

VAR should be out of the game entirely. I wouldn’t necessarily be more or less bothered if it came into the championship it’s a matter of time really.

josh.barker35d ago

Pick your poison. Championship refs are horrific but as we’ve seen in the PL the people in control of VAR are just as inept when using the technoly

jameslloyd14.jl35d ago

one of the best things about the championship is the fact that there’s no VAR. keep it that way

ray.baxterct195135d ago

No VAR! But what about good referees? Where do they find these inept referees? surely a high profile game deserves more than Sunday league quality officials.Souceks' tackle was top draw stuff. Moore style, not a penalty, other decisions too were unacceptable. I felt the game took a different course after that awful blunder by the buffoons in black.

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chillout35d ago

Yes - that is exactly my point. No VAR - better officials. The ref last night was really poor - but, again, he wasn’t to blame for us dropping points - we did that all on our own.

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cumberworth5735d ago

No thanks! Shocking decision but no VAR is a breath of fresh air

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chillout35d ago

Exactly. If we had VAR, we would still be playing now - I’ve better things to do than hang around waiting to see if a striker’s spit meant he was offside!

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freddie35d ago

If it stops decisions like that being made then bring it! Awful, awful decision

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chillout35d ago

Taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut is rarely a good decision.

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jordan.harris35d ago

One of the worst decisions I have ever seen but keep VAR out of the Championship. That feeling of waiting for a goal to be chalked off for a reason no one in the stadium can understand is the worst in football now

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chillout35d ago

West Ham dropped points last night because they were uninspiring and back to their insipid worst. Sure the penalty was awful, but teams rarely lose out just because of VAR. As we see in the Prem, VAR relies on humans and mistakes aren’t eradicated there anyway. VAR ruins the flow of the game and kills all momentum. Scrap it everywhere. Get better officials.

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rong5234d ago

We hear so much about how we must start games better yet it rarely happens- there must be a problem - do the players not understand the manager / coaches? Also every game when the starting eleven is announced you can almost predict that a fast start is unlikely. If we can see it why can’t Nuno?

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pwithey134d ago

He can’t because he’s tactical inept, definitely not the manager we need. And I’m sorry to say, under him we will struggle to get automatic promotion.

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michaelgjregan35d ago

Nothing controversial as its 100% better without VAR. We got what we deserved as absolute garbage in the first half.

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dantowen8195135d ago

Agreed. The QPR goal gave us 70 minutes to respond and we only got going midway through the second half

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reubengane535d ago

Why wasn't Pablo picked, he would have done a better job than Taty and he's never been in a West Ham losing team?

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pwithey134d ago

Neither of them are good enough to play for us, Taty is never a CF in a million years, not in English football anyway, just wants to stand around just waiting for the ball to his feet, and making token runs to close people down without actually wanting to get it. Admittedly he is a bit brighter playing deeper. But not much. And Pablos not got a clue.

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nickdomjan35d ago

We have the players, for me what was missing was a collective desire, and how many more times will we be critical of team selections before the blame game gathers pace

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dantowen8195135d ago

The weird thing is, I think Nuno sees the problems. He spoke in his press conference about needing to start games quicker My concern is that he isn’t solving those problems

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philharrison5835d ago

Not bothered about who did what, for me, Nuno has know idea how to set up or motivate to compete and win in a derby game! 12 derbys won 0 says it all. ⚒️

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dantowen8195135d ago

I didn’t realise the derby record was that bad… again, it felt like the West Ham players were surprised by how much QPR wanted it!

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wmw5twfhm535d ago

I want to know why we consistently dig a hole for ourselves as we start games so slowly? Also why do we play so passively especially at home? When we should be on the front foot as our strengths are our attackers! Our midfield rarely plays a forward pass always sideways and backwards?

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pwithey134d ago

All goes back to the coaching I’m afraid if the attacking positive attitude is not coached into them on the training ground then they will never replicate it on the pitch.

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dantowen8195135d ago

I thought he got Soucek’s role wrong to be honest. Soucek has to be up top with the striker for me. He gives the ball away far too much in midfield - as he saw in the lead up to their penalty

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wmw5twfhm535d ago

Let’s get Eddie Howe in he would sort us out or otherwise Craig Bellamy ?

wmw5twfhm535d ago

I’m very upset with Nuno he talks the talk but rarely delivers on his promises! We were very poor second best to all challenges and deserved to be behind on the balance of play! We missed kante as he is our only attacking midfield threat! He wasn’t even on the bench? We should be putting teams under the kosh at home but do the opposite! PASSIVE FOOTBALL?

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dantowen8195135d ago

Kante was suspended unfortunately after his red card at Millwall But agree with Nuno over promising and under delivering. He spent all week talking about needing to start games better and then we put in a first half like that

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grizzlyrayadams35d ago

to we score we was poor than we could have won the game. I was surprised the ref did not give QPR a foul for the Bowen tackle before he scored, he gave them penalty for the same tackle after both tackles the ball was won first.

ray.baxterct195135d ago

I hate the ridiculous international breaks BIG TIME.Especially the last one at the start of the new season.Three weeks off at the beginning of the season is lunacy, it makes no sense in the English game. I think other games will suffer the same quality this week. We were abysmal in truth,

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dantowen8195135d ago

Yeah I’d be interested to see how the other Champ teams with a lot of internationals got on. No excusing that first half though. It’s becoming a theme

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cumberworth5735d ago

Sloppy in possession, too passive and let QPR dictate the game at West Ham! Too many big name players think they just need to turn up to win, it’s a scrap in this league and you need to be at it from the start, we weren’t, is that Nuno’s fault? He prepares the team?

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chillout35d ago

Yep - I don’t think Nuno will get us out of this league. I’m not sure how long the top brass will give him - I know it’s likely to be costly to axe him, but it will cost Co a whole lot more missing out on promotion.❤️

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dodkins200036d ago

For most of the match we were crap Nuno has got to get them for 90 minutes or we havent got a snowballs in Hell of goin up

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whitefordstw35d ago

We seem to think as long as we play quite well for the last 20 minutes that should do it

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chillout36d ago

We will be out of the auto promotion slots this weekend. It takes some manager with a squad like this not to run away with the league - but we won’t with Nuno. We have dropped 11 points in 9 games; it’s just not good enough.

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dantowen8195136d ago

I don’t know why it takes us so long to get going! That’s 8 games in 12 we’ve been behind in the first half

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chillout36d ago

Typical West Ham and Nuno. Forget the dodgy penalty - 2 points dropped (again). Any thoughts of West Ham walking this division are long over.

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dantowen8195136d ago

Yeah the penalty is annoying but much more damning was the first half performance Especially as Nuno spoke so much pre-match about needing to come out of the blocks faster

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jonathan.gorrie36d ago

The QPR penalty was ridiculous but that just wasn't good enough. So frustrating after so long off.

leeclarke050837d ago

Stick with both of them on the bench and go with the lads who came back well against Millwall

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dantowen8195137d ago

Annoyingly, Kante is suspended, which is such a shame as he’s been in top form. Agree on Pablo though, he’s made big strides recently

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