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How do you feel about the decision now the VAR audio has been released? 😬

What was the correct decision? Goal, no goal or penalty? 🤔

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reubengane5183d ago

Arteta and his Arsenal team are Masters of the Dark Arts and got away with it against us.

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firemantrippy184d ago

Should have been a penalty to West Ham. Clear as day when you look at all the angles.

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reubengane5185d ago

Referee Kavanagh was clueless, he was nearest to the incident and should have stuck to his decision to award the goal, he should have refused to go to the screen!

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Just watching carrager and abandon ship jermain defoe talking about calvert-lewin penalty and how great it was. Did they never see Ray Stewart take a penalty. Always unstoppable. Hello !!!!

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reubengane5185d ago

Ray 'Tonka' Stewart scored 76 penalties out of 87 taken, a great defender and one of our outstanding left backs.

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jonathan.gorrie186d ago

Where you nervous when DCL stepped up? I couldn't watch!

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Nothing can change now - but what do YOU want to hear from the PGMO?! 😳

I want to know why Rice on Dinos was ignored! 😡

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mhutch63186d ago

They looked at it for best part of 5 minutes , how can they not see the challenges on West Ham players prior which could have been a penalty

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jim.bradley49185d ago

they only see what they want to see ...

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jonathan.gorrie186d ago

Painful, isn't it? Just wish we all knew where we stood

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grahamwatts187d ago

A few years ago referees had an edict to clamp down on penalty area wrestling. They awarded quite a few penalties, free kicks and yellow cards in early games. Result wrestling stopped. Arsenal started up the problem again and under current non intervention approach by refs have effectively won the League by doing it! Thanks god no VAR in Championship!

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jonathan.gorrie186d ago

Yeah that lack of VAR in the Championship really is a (relatively) comforting thought 😂 Still, hope it doesn't come to that...

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alan.mayo51187d ago

Why would anyone listen to what Dermot Gallagher says? I've seen him on Ref Watch. All he does is support the refereeing mafia, justifying decisions by process rather than fair and objective judgement. That is the problem with referees in general. They can't see the wood (real culpability) for the trees (the process and rules they are expected to follow).

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jim.bradley49185d ago

Mike Dean says it was a goal !

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jonathan.gorrie187d ago

There was a bit of debate as to why Rice wasn't punished, so was perhaps worth looking at some kind of explanation. Clearly, there are much bigger issues afoot here - you are right!

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chillout187d ago

Clattenburg is more honest - I agree Dermot never seems to want to go against his buddies.

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How many points have Arsenal won from overloading the six-yard box at set-pieces this season? It’s the hypocrisy of it all, there’s just no consistency. It’s a joke.

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jonathan.gorrie188d ago

Think this is the thing. How can it be one rule for one team and another rule for another? Painful

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duncan.scott1187d ago

They did it to Utd twice in 1 game and they got away with it... no consistency.

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dantowen81951188d ago

Honestly baffling - can’t remember another premier league winning side that absolutely no one admires or respects

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Do you think we’re down?

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jonathan.gorrie188d ago

Sadly so mate. How are you feeling about it?

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jakewhu188d ago

All eyes on tomorrow. If Spurs win or get a point I think we’re down. I can’t see us getting anything away at Newcastle and it’ll be too late when we face Leeds.

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Hope we get over the line but next year is a rebuild if we are down, sad to see decent players leave but the kids must be stepping up. Kante Marshall look made for Championship

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jonathan.gorrie188d ago

Yeah its going to be a big summer. Do hope that the next generation are largely free of the misery the last few seasons have been. Kante could be great!

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dantowen81951188d ago

It’s a bit early to be saying this maybe, but it would allow a potential reset and the chance to drive the wages down

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Sum up your feelings on that result if you can... 😢

Heartbroken is an understatement! 💔

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cpaynter77183d ago

Bringing Pablo on before Wilson is a joke. Wilson poses more of a threat in 15mins than Pablo can in a whole game.

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ray.baxterct1951186d ago

In the cold light of day, with a clearer mind, going back to the outset of the game and continuing through it, my initial thought was wrong team selection.Then, as the game continued Fernandez should have scored,Drossard should have been marshalled for the goal,Pablo wrong sub,Todibo too aggressive for the ref,Taty should have stayed on Wilson on too late.

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ray.baxterct1951186d ago

What became of Traore?😟nobody has mentioned the reason he was not in the Frame.

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mtwyman317187d ago

We are going down!We was very unlucky that goal Callum Wilson scored 95min only to be disallowed for foul on there goalkeeper but what about an arsenal player holding on to one of our players surely that was a foul too Michael

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jamesshearman23187d ago

There was so much holding going on! The PL has a massive problem with set pieces

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Give us your response to Callum Wilson's VAR heartbreak? 😫

The right call? Or harsh on Pablo?

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anthosladomatos184d ago

Joke refs,joke VAR

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brianbetteridge0308185d ago

We were robbed the referee should have let the goal stand as arsenal had five players holding west ham players as the sun on Monday showed fa should overturn this and give both teams one point each

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ray.baxterct1951185d ago

My view is ,the ref gave a goal,he should have had the balls to stand firm on the decision.Instead he bottled it and let Arsenal crowd him out of it.VAR is there for guidance, not the law.On the field of play he is the boss(that's not a joke)He was afraid of repercussions.West Ham are not important enough in the scheme, it goes against the script.-SEETHING!

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Spuds win tomorrow and it’s over.

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callum_boyle187d ago

The only hope now is that Millwall don’t come up. Don’t think I could handle them being a league above us

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lankiebd188d ago

I just said this to my Mrs. We've been robbed today. Corruption at it's finest!

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A devastating finale, but who was your West Ham MOTM? 😪

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wncrnvsnyc187d ago

Best player in west ham team Aaron wan bissaka

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chillout187d ago

VAR was man of the match in the end

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creminmick187d ago

Var gave the right decision it is plane to see the keeper was fouled you were a keeper your self don't be a bad lover and accept the decision

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reubengane5185d ago

The var people must have been in a plane at 35,000 ft to have given that incorrect verdict plus 17 angle views sorry I can't comment on my love life!

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jonathan.gorrie187d ago

Interesting, I don't disagree in that it was the wrong decision as such. It's just the lack of consistency througout the season that is so annoying

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What do you make of Nuno's two BIG calls?

Wan-Bissaka and Todibo return...

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philharrison58188d ago

Didn't matter what side we put out, stockley park were never going to let us get anything out of the game⚒️

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dantowen81951188d ago

A mad decision considering Arsenal have been doing exactly the same thing all season

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terrynorwood24946188d ago

Pablo on while Wilson sits on the bench what a joke ,!!

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dantowen81951188d ago

Yeah that was a bit strange. Pablo didn’t even win any of his duels, although he should’ve had an assist for the Fernandes chance

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pnut5382188d ago

Bent Ref and Bent VAR, nothing else to say apart from Mads should have been MOTM.

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ray.baxterct1951188d ago

I reckon Chris Kavanagh leans towards Man United,his whistle for nothing in the 87th minute and giving a free kick to Arsenal,then giving a red card to Rui Barbosa for complaining was shambolic.

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Whatever we do we are not good enough. Recently relying on our back to to nick a goal from a corner. When was the last goal the forward scorned Toure not the answer. Head down losses the ball position.

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ray.baxterct1951188d ago

I think we have the ability to beat anyone in this league at home.We have not had the rub of the green it's true, we had Brentford on the ropes with 2 or 3 post hits and goal offside by a nose.Man City only drew with us from an unstoppable angled shot.We do have to learn accuracy without panic though.

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daniel.owen188d ago

I actually trust the backline to handle Arsenal, it's just whether we can do enough going in the other direction! Shame there's no Traore to bring off the bench!

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freddie189d ago

There has been SOME good performances tho, so if the players can find this again, there's always a chance! BELIEVE

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freddie189d ago

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What changes would you make to this team and why? 👀

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reubengane5183d ago

Start with Traore and Wilson up front with Bowen on the right wing with Taty and Kante coming on when fresh legs are needed.

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reubengane5188d ago

Put Bowen back on the right wing where he's more effective, stick Traore just behind Taty where his battling strength would open up Arsenal's defence.

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dantowen81951188d ago

I’m guessing maybe Traore had an injury today - so annoying as he’d have come in so handy

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chillout188d ago

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chillout188d ago

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To boo or not to boo, that is the question... 😂

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ray.baxterct1951188d ago

I think we should give him a big cheer when he appears,I reckon it will unsettle him.He is a sensitive sort and you can't forget your roots.I bet he's been following the Hammers' results.It wouldn't surprise me if he starts on the bench.

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freddie188d ago

If they leave him on the bench they are crazy!

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patandfrank189d ago

To me Declan is always lovely and an excellent player and I would never BOO him.. COYI

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freddie188d ago

Agreed but you will always get some fans who will never see him the same for leaving, especially to another London club

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tomlynsmith189d ago

Truth is Declan Rice outgrew West Ham and wanted to move on to a club to match his ambitions for medals. Had he gone to Man City fans would’ve understood - but it’s the fact he chose Arsenal that grates.

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ray.baxterct1951188d ago

It could have been worse--Man City

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dantowen81951189d ago

100%. We all know he celebrates our goals every single week as well

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How would a draw with Arsenal make you feel about our survival chances? 🤔

West Ham would still be below Spurs on goal difference... 😬

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reubengane5188d ago

Even with a point there's still a glimmer of hope.

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ray.baxterct1951189d ago

TRAORE=optimism

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ray.baxterct1951188d ago

On reflection a draw is better than nothing, it would show at least we put up a fight.

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ray.baxterct1951189d ago

Last week I thought a draw would be a fair result, but now a win would be imperative to keep the pressure up. I woke this morning with a good feeling of optimism,I hope I can keep it up tomorrow,COYI !!

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freddie189d ago

COYI

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See if you can work out the mystery trio! 🥴

Tell us your answer below 👇

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chillout190d ago

If we did that for this season - most of our players would be missing !

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daniel.owen190d ago

Haha some would say we've been playing with three men less for most of the campaign

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Imaging you're in Nuno's shoes; Who are you bringing in to face Arsenal? 👞

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richlucas100189d ago

4231, kante and fernandes, summerville, bowen, traore, and taty up top

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dantowen81951189d ago

No Soucek? I do worry about him giving the ball away against Arsenal’s high press - but he could be so key defending their corners

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chillout190d ago

Rambo

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richardmills19300190d ago

Give Wilson 20+mins kante to come on if Pablo not doing enough by half time

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daniel.owen190d ago

What do you reckon about Bowen playing behind Taty with maybe Traore on the right?

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If we are to get a RESULT vs Arsenal, how do you think we'd do it? 🧐

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ray.baxterct1951188d ago

It cries out for Traore,his best work seems to be on the left though.It worries me how I keep banging on about him, am I obsessed with the bloke?

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dantowen81951188d ago

Haha I’ve been doing the same - the idea of Traore is a lot more attractive than the reality haha

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chillout190d ago

By scoring more goals than them.

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dodkins2000190d ago

We can do them.if everyone gives 110 % from start to.finish they are under as much pressure as us

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daniel.owen190d ago

I think a lot of it will come down to who blinks first. We know Arsenal can let pressure get the better of them. And our home form has actually been pretty solid for a while now

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I like the idea of Diouf at wing-back! Then again, that probably means we get outnumbered in midfield

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kwaylen193d ago

Diouf is overated he’s not getting down the wing and putting crosses into opposition box like when he first arrived? And he’s defensively vulnerable we can’t afford any more mistakes

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dantowen81951192d ago

I’m starting to feel that way. I love watching him whip a ball in but one in 15 being accurate is starting to get annoying

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What should West Ham's defence look like against Arsenal? ⚒️ 🆚 🔫

Todibo back in? Scarles over Diouf? KWP at left-back? Let us know 👇

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chillout190d ago

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jonathan.gorrie191d ago

AWB - Disasi - Mav - KWP please and thank you

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kwaylen193d ago

Areola Walker-Peter’s disasi Mavropanos todibo kante soucek fernandes Summerville castalanos Bowen. If we play as a team all competing all over the pitch we could nick a goalkeeper on the break ! COYI

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dantowen81951192d ago

You’d put Areola back in?

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