
Where do you stand on Florian Wirtz?
Labelled a flop by the media. Fairly? 🤔
flomaepioh5d ago
My Take is, why is it that Flo always on the spotlight? remember what Jurgen Klopp, the one making LFC believe again said, people who love and know the sport will agree that Flo performs alright! I would only take what Jurgen says as he is the one making me believe again.
james.brooke5d ago
I think plenty of people would argue that the spotlight actually hasn’t been bright enough on him given the fee we paid. I agree he’s doing ok, but it isn’t enough. He is inconsistent within games and in a wider sense too. As much as he’s been ok, how many times has he put together a genuinely good run of 5 games? Probably only once
keithsmyth3761w ago
About time we sold Wirtz while we can still get money for him, he is atrocious, I will personally buy the plane ticket back to Germany for him to join Bayern Munich, he's had plenty of time to redeem himself, also take Kerkez and Frimpong out the door with him in January.
keithsmyth3761w ago
Hopefully Barca or Madrid or Bayern Munich will put a bid in for Wirtz, l don't know who we should go in for a new number 10 maybe you would have a suggestion James, we've got some good class young talent coming in 2027, martinez,braughmans and some very good talent that are coming through that might be ready for the first team squad next season
james.brooke1w ago
Ryanair Keith? Or something a bit more upmarket? 😂
dale.odonnell1w ago
Total flop. Got a free ride from the press until the start of this season.
jonny1w ago
I can’t believe I am saying this, but I agree with Jamie Carragher’s verdict. He’s just not that good
james.brooke1w ago
Really, really want to see him do well but I’ve been losing patience with him for a while. It has to be a confidence issue, because there is no other reason for consistently failing to make simple passes and do the basics right. He works hard but is so sloppy on the ball. The best way to describe him as that he plays as if the scoreline doesn’t matter
james.brooke1w ago
It is a shame that Ekitike is injured as he was the one player who looked to be able to get more out of him. Maybe Barcola can. I don’t think he necessarily needs to justify the fee as that’s fairly impossible, he just has to make it irrelevant. There shouldn’t be questions about his place in the team. Maybe Jurgen can help us out
johnverrall111w ago
Still not exactly sure what his biggest strength is. Seems to lack the physicality to really make a success of himself in the Prem
james.brooke1w ago
This is a big part of the problem. Doesn’t excel at anything and isn’t quick enough to make up for the deficiencies
peter.lynch1w ago
Honestly one of the most frustrating situations ever! I thought he would learn that he doesn’t have as much time in the Prem, as well as the need to be more physical. But confidence is playing a part too, and I think if he gets a handful of goals and assists then he’ll start flying
freddie1w ago
I’m firmly in the camp of stick by him! 1. We have no one else. But 2. He hasn’t been as bad as people say. Yes, he needs to do more, but he has also been doing that just been unlucky without getting goals or assists
dakir.thanveer1w ago
Exactly! It's almost as if people are expecting flashy stuff from him because of the price tag. What he does best is getting into pockets of space, exploiting gaps between the lines and making chances from there, which he has been doing. Could be better yes, but things will click when the rest of the attack starts firing on all cylinders as well
aaditya.krishnamurthy1w ago
It’s always going to be difficult to turn around after a tough season - but he has to have a little grit between his teeth to grab the situation by the horns and turns things around - that doesn’t mean force it, but so the small stuff right all the time and the big passes and shots will comen
jordan.ellis1w ago
He’s got to improve, no doubt it. At the same time, so have a lot of people around him. He’s becoming the scapegoat for a team that has been underperforming sinc before he even arrived. This all started at the end of Slots title winning season.
eoin1w ago
Exactly this, has about the same G/A as Palmer and foden since the start of last season in what we can all agree was a terrible Liverpool side for the most part. And he would have SO MUCH MORE if out attackers werent so bad last season
lrandall12101w ago
I think he’s massively overrated. He’s no doubt got the massive talent, but he just doesn’t look up to it
jamie.theodosi1w ago
I think it’s just a typical example of the premier league showing it’s the best league in the world. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player because he hasn’t hit the same heights he did in the German league.
jameslloyd14.jl1w ago
He’s just not good, Liverpool are better off without him. How some of their fans are willing to talk down on Szoboszlai to defend him boggles the mind
dakir.thanveer1w ago
Honestly, I think Szoboszlai gets away with a lot. He is frustrating to watch at times. Szobo is better off at RB or in Wirtz's position
dakir.thanveer1w ago
Wirtz is still playing in a dysfunctional attack. I believe he will be a great asset when things start clicking under Iraola. Wirtz was never a flashy player even in the Bundesliga, so Prem fans are never going to be happy with him. Szoboszlai gets away with worse performances sometimes
josh.barker1w ago
He’s a fine player but the fee is the biggest problem. Sign him for £40m and nobody pays attention but he’ll never justify that price-tag
eoin1w ago
Does he have to justify 116m to not be a failure?
david.comerford1w ago
Nowhere near justified the fee but in Liverpool's defence, it was only a matter of time before a heavyweight team paid 100m+ for him. Sometimes transfers just don't work out. The fee was fair in the context of what he did in Germany
tom.procter1w ago
I was so excited to watch this guy in the PL. Sure he’s had good games here and there, but nowhere near as many as he should have for the money that was paid. Feels like he just doesn’t really suit the league
callum_boyle1w ago
You don’t become a bad player overnight but where he struggles is that he isn’t the main man. Even with the fee paid, Isak, VVD etc are all the bigger names. He gets far too much slack though and I think he will come good
dantowen819511w ago
He’s just not got it - doesn’t have the speed, either physically or mentally. Far too weak in both departments as well. Clearly a talented footballer but, then again, so was Sancho and Kagawa
dantowen819511w ago
A good player, not a premier league player
markmarston1w ago
He’s a good player and that’s where it ends. Probably a great player in a different league where different attributes are held in higher regard and more important. He’s a £40m player in the PL but probably a £100m player in Spain or Germany
george.patten1w ago
I think he’s a quality player that just isn’t suited to the prem. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him go to a Bayern or Barca and become one of the best in the world
seanfisher1w ago
For £116m (and yes, the fee matters.) he’s been terrible. Absolutely terrible. There’s no avoiding it 🤷🏻♂️
charlesjones1w ago
Even if he cost £30m you’d be saying he doesn’t look a bargain.
martin.crawford1w ago
Suffering from the price tag and just not being in a very functional team. Anyone who pretends not to see how much ability he has is being disingenuous
charlesjones1w ago
There are a few words I don’t think I can post on this platform that I’d use to describe Wirtz. Useless useless player.
eoin1w ago
Im sick of the narrative now. Yeah, he hasnt been good enough. Also, he arrived at Liverpool at the worst possible time with all that happened last year. If salah, gakpo, isak were in form, he would have had double digit assists in his first season. Its not good enough right now, no doubt. But we shouldnt let rival fans get to decide if Hes a flop.
charlesjones1w ago
Eoin. He’s crap. He’s not had a single good game since signing.
dancoombs1w ago
Non-Liverpool fan here, the issue with signing a player for huge fees like this is it’s almost impossible to meet expectations. Especially if coming from abroad, where fans/media have only seen clips/him at his best